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From: Clive McCarthy
Reply-To: Clive McCarthy , NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Date: Fri, 9 Feb:03:26 -0800
To:
Subject: [NetBehaviour] die laughing

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From:
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Date: Fri, 09 Feb:18:52 -0100
To: Clive McCarthy , NetBehaviour for networked distributed
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Libel not Slander

Clive,

You're entitled to your opinion that my post was witless and dull.
Can't deny I wasn't taken back by it. But you're mistaken to think I
was being disagreeable or hostile. Initially I was irritated by the
tiniest of amounts by Sim hijacking a non DIWO thread by a newcomer to
the list, until having the (dull & witless?) idea to pretend his cutup
version made actual sense and to reply as if it made sense, in the style
of an arrogant jerk. Perhaps not one of my better ideas :)

James.

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On 9/2/2007, "Clive McCarthy" wrote:http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20070209/e55e14a8/attachment.jpe">

Libel not Slander

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From: Sim Gishel
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Date: Fri, 09 Feb:08:14 +0100
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Subject: delayed answer: Re: [NetBehaviour] RE: DIWO_new Thursday Club (snip)

sorry for answering that late.

I've tried my best to address the issues raised in your last post, but,
please forgive me if I'm off the mark.

i dont mind.

I don't really see what you're getting at here:

Like a lot of things I grew up believing, this turns out to be false.

hi there, new book /Performance and interaction design. Currently he

(snip)

After all, it is argued is it not, that there is in fact a direct connection. Am I wrong?

:

He worked as a B.A. in the creative arts. Her new book /Performance and
projects are created with teams of the following events best maria x]

(snip)

Are you honestly really surprised, at these outcomes?:

Not Every Experience is a Nightmare

.....composed of experience in the program and Performance". -- 8 MARCH
with teams of experience in London and innovative technologies for
anyone interested in the Goldsmiths Digital Studios www.cybertheater.org
NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org

(snip)

I think you're treading on very thin ice speaking about matters of this
magnitude with such slack jawed disinterest:

You wouldn’t think such a little drop of milk could go so far, would you?

thats all for today

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From:
To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity"
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] RE: DIWO_new Thursday Club (snip)

Well, this list is an experiment, and not a critical forum for slander.., but
http://www.slanderous.org is looking for people just like you.
Could you build on the witless and dull motifs? I think we may have a new
headline for the next issue.
I would LOVE some visuals for the journal.
Please address all slander and general misanthropy to:
editor@slanderous.org
we'd love to promote your ideas,
Eric (for Joe Edit)

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From: Clive McCarthy
Reply-To: Clive McCarthy , NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Date: Thu, 8 Feb:14:06 -0800
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity ,
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] RE: DIWO_new Thursday Club (snip)

James,
Clearly not yours.
Clive.


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----- Original Message -----
From: >
To: >
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] RE: DIWO_new Thursday Club (snip)

On 8/2/2007, "Clive McCarthy" > wrote:

>>Very tedious DIWO - it is witless and dull. If you are going to disagree please engage in something visual.

What planet are you on?

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From: Clive McCarthy
Reply-To: Clive McCarthy , NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Date: Thu, 8 Feb:27:32 -0800
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity , marc
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] RE: DIWO_new Thursday Club (snip)

Very tedious DIWO ˜ it is witless and dull. If you are going to disagree please engage in something visual.

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From: Michael Szpakowski
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Date: Thu, 8 Feb:27:22 -0800 (PST)
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] RE: DIWO_new Thursday Club (snip)

james@jwm-art.net wrote a radio play:

Man: I think you're treading on very thin ice. I think
you're treading on very very very thin ice.

Woman: FYI: I'm sick to death of anti-M$ rants (ok i
fib occasionally ;)

Man: ROTFLMAO at this proposition: Please crawl back
under your rock!

Woman: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yawn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yawn.

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From:
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Date: Thu, 08 Feb:14:14 -0100
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed
Subject: [NetBehaviour] RE: DIWO_new Thursday Club (snip)

Sim,

I've tried my best to address the issues raised in your last post, but,
please forgive me if I'm off the mark.

James
- - - - - - - - - - -

I don't really see what you're getting at here:

>hi there, new book /Performance and interaction design. Currently he
(snip)

And personally, IMHO, this is just absurd:

>He worked as a B.A. in the creative arts. Her new book /Performance and
>projects are created with teams of the following events best maria x]
(snip)

Are you honestly really surprised, at these outcomes?:

>.....composed of experience in the program and Performance". -- 8 MARCH
>with teams of experience in London and innovative technologies for
>anyone interested in the Goldsmiths Digital Studios www.cybertheater.org
>NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org
(snip)

I think you're treading on very thin ice speaking about matters of this
magnitude with such slack jawed disinterest:

>on lessons I've learned as a Research Scientist at Goldsmiths MFA in
>group shows in Fine Art and at drp01mc@gold.ac.uk To find Goldsmiths
>College. He has taught multimedia at Goldsmiths MFA in Computer Science
(snip)

FYI: I'm sick to death of anti-M$ rants (ok i fib occasionally ;) ):

>and action, and at Microsoft and made for anyone interested in the
>SIGGRAPH 2005. He has been in Drama and theoretical hurdles. In this
>talk I'll show work and technology backgrounds. Their work that employ
(snip)

Please crawl back under your rock if you're going to make such erroneous
statements:

>College. He is currently working on the following events this term: 22
>FEBRUARY with SUE BROADHURST DIGITAL STUDIOS and award winning artists
>igloo create intermedia artworks, led by the Goldsmiths GRADUATE SCHOOL
>6pm until 8pm, Seminar Rooms at New York University's Media Research
(snip)

ROTFLMAO at this proposition:

>*15 FEBRUARY* with SUE BROADHURST DIGITAL PRACTICES Sue is Subject
>Leader, Reader in Fine Art and has just been in the /Body, Space and
>innovative technologies for everyday life. -- THE THURSDAY CLUB EVENT*
>on a Program Manager on a digital technology. The term highlights the
>theories and have already noticed that there's a digital technology. The
(snip)

So what?:

>NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org
>http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour hi there, new
>to start a digital media. The work is Subject Leader, Reader in a
(snip)

RTFM:

>Institute of collaborative practice based research on the
>state-of-the-art in the creative arts. Her new to present work that
>there's a writer and philosophies of experience in New York. Meyer
>received a series of Art and action, and action, and small scale
(snip)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yawn:

>University of Design at Microsoft and practitioner in Drama and
(snip)

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From: Sim Gishel
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Date: Thu, 08 Feb:48:00 +0100
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] new Thursday Club event at Goldsmiths, 15 February with Jon Meyer

hi there, new book /Performance and interaction design. Currently he
focuses on *15 FEBRUARY* with IGLOO International and user interfaces.
He worked as a B.A. in the creative arts. Her new book /Performance and
projects are created with teams of the following events best maria x]
PhD Art program. I'll show work is an M.S. in group for anyone
interested in Drama and have already noticed that was ....composed of
Design at New York City, Seattle, Los Angeles and projects that was
....composed of experience in the program and Performance". -- 8 MARCH
with teams of experience in London and innovative technologies for
anyone interested in the Goldsmiths Digital Studios www.cybertheater.org
NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org
http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour hi there, new
book /Performance and performance with IGLOO International and talk I'll
show work and Cd Rom. Visit www.igloo.org.uk/ -- THE THURSDAY CLUB is
Professor of West London. Sue is currently in group for distribution
across a lot going on lessons I've done as a computer scientist studying
on lessons I've learned as a Research Scientist at Goldsmiths MFA in
group shows in Fine Art and at drp01mc@gold.ac.uk To find Goldsmiths
College. He has taught multimedia at Goldsmiths MFA in Computer Science
from Sussex University and Computational Technologies at Microsoft and
user interfaces. He worked as a digital artist, working on the
Goldsmiths Digital Studios www.cybertheater.org NetBehaviour mailing
list and Technology /online journal and practices of Virtual Embodiment
and Cd Rom. Visit www.igloo.org.uk/ -- 22 MARCH with teams of formats
and action, and at Microsoft and made for anyone interested in the
SIGGRAPH 2005. He has been in Drama and theoretical hurdles. In this
talk I'll show work and technology backgrounds. Their work that employ
new book /Performance and Osaka, including the state-of-the-art in
computer science and has over 15 years, his work is co-editor of the
Sparkle team at New York University's Media Research Scientist at the
software industry, specializing in the Sparkle team at Goldsmiths
College. He is currently working on the following events this term: 22
FEBRUARY with SUE BROADHURST DIGITAL STUDIOS and award winning artists
igloo create intermedia artworks, led by the Goldsmiths GRADUATE SCHOOL
6pm until 8pm, Seminar Rooms at New York University's Media Research
Laboratory. Jon has been in Drama and Technology: Practices of the
theories and small scale performance and Interactivity/ has just been in
London and user interfaces. He worked as a digital technology. The term
'intermedia' to start a digital media. JON MEYER is Professor of
experience in London and the final year of these challenges, drawing on
*15 FEBRUARY* with SUE BROADHURST DIGITAL PRACTICES Sue is Subject
Leader, Reader in Fine Art and has just been in the /Body, Space and
innovative technologies for everyday life. -- THE THURSDAY CLUB EVENT*
on a Program Manager on a digital technology. The term highlights the
theories and have already noticed that there's a digital technology. The
work spanning auditory interfaces, theories and small scale performance
and as a discussion group shows in computer graphics, animation, and is
Subject Leader, Reader in the state-of-the-art in group shows in the
term highlights the list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org
http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour hi there, new
to describe work combines film, video, motion capture technology, music
and Interactivity/ has over fifteen years of the list
NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org
http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour hi there, new
to start a digital media. The work is Subject Leader, Reader in a
digital artist, working in Computer Science from Sussex University of
Art and New York. Meyer received a series of London, New Cross, SE14 6NW
FREE, ALL ARE WELCOME *DIGITAL ART CONTEXT * If you are created with
teams of you are a variety of Art, Brunel University of Design at the
state-of-the-art in the Surrey Institute of you might be interested in
Computer Science from New Cross, SE14 6NW FREE, ALL ARE WELCOME *DIGITAL
ART IN THE THURSDAY CLUB EVENT* on design-led methodologies and
performance with IGLOO International and practitioner in Fine Art and
philosophies of cross-disciplinarity, interactivity, technologies for
anyone interested in the software industry, specializing in the Surrey
Institute of collaborative practice based research on the
state-of-the-art in the creative arts. Her new to present work that
there's a writer and philosophies of experience in New York. Meyer
received a series of Art and action, and action, and small scale
performance with SUE BROADHURST DIGITAL PRACTICES Sue is currently in
London and Technology: Practices of highly skilled practitioners drawn
primarily from Sussex University and Computational Technologies
Goldsmiths GRADUATE SCHOOL 6pm until 8pm, Seminar Rooms at New York.
Meyer received a lot going on here ;-) I hope we can post announcements?
some practical, cultural landscape(s). For more information check
http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/gds/events.php or email maria x] PhD Art and
Computational Technologies Goldsmiths GRADUATE SCHOOL 6pm until 8pm,
Seminar Rooms at Ben Pimlott Building (Ground Floor, right), Goldsmiths,
University of Design at Microsoft and practitioner in Drama and
Technology: Practices of you might be interested in New York. Meyer
received a computer scientist studying on a variety of platforms,
including gallery installation, internet sites, large and as a writer
and Computational Technologies Goldsmiths DIGITAL PRACTICES Sue is
co-editor of you are a computer graphics, animation, and Technology:
Practices of cross-disciplinarity, interactivity, technologies and made
for anyone interested in the final year of perception and an open forum
discussion group for anyone interested in the Sparkle team at Ben
Pimlott Building (Ground Floor, right), Goldsmiths, University of
collaborative practice based research on innovative technologies for
contemporary artists using digital artist wishing to the term
'intermedia' to present work I've learned as a variety of the Surrey
Institute of the School of Virtual Embodiment and an open forum
discussion about useful strategies for anyone interested in a digital
technology. The term 'intermedia' to present work that there's a digital
artist wishing to present work I've done as a computer science and
innovative technologies for contemporary art context, you might be
interested in Drama and Design. http://www.jonmeyer.com -- 22 FEBRUARY
with IGLOO International and interaction design. Currently he focuses on
a computer

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http://willworkforfood.projektraum.org
http://blushingsusie.com

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From: "Maria Chatzichristodoulou [aka maria x]"
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Date: Thu, 08 Feb:08:55 +0000
To:
Subject: [NetBehaviour] new Thursday Club event at Goldsmiths, 15 February with Jon Meyer

hi there, new to the list and have already noticed that there's a lot
going on here ;-)

I hope we can post announcements?

some of you might be interested in the following events

best
maria x
:
*
NEW THURSDAY CLUB EVENT* on *15 FEBRUARY* with *JON MEYER*

Supported by the Goldsmiths DIGITAL STUDIOS and the Goldsmiths GRADUATE
SCHOOL

6pm until 8pm, Seminar Rooms at Ben Pimlott Building (Ground Floor,
right), Goldsmiths, University of London, New Cross, SE14 6NW

FREE, ALL ARE WELCOME

*DIGITAL ART IN THE CONTEMPORARY ART CONTEXT *

If you are a digital artist wishing to present work in the contemporary
art context, you face some practical, cultural and theoretical hurdles.
In this talk I'll discuss some of these challenges, drawing on lessons
I've learned as a computer scientist studying on the Goldsmiths MFA in
Fine Art program. I'll show work I've done as part of the program and
talk about common responses. My goal is to start a discussion about
useful strategies for contemporary artists using digital media.

JON MEYER is a digital artist, working in London and New York. Meyer
received a B.A. in Artificial Intelligence from Sussex University and an
M.S. in Computer Science from New York University. His artwork has been
in group shows in New York City, Seattle, Los Angeles and Osaka,
including the SIGGRAPH 2005. He is currently in the final year of his
M.F.A in Fine Art at Goldsmiths College.
Jon has over fifteen years of experience in the software industry,
specializing in computer graphics, animation, and user interfaces. He
worked as a Program Manager on the Sparkle team at Microsoft and as a
Research Scientist at New York University's Media Research Laboratory.
Jon has taught multimedia at NYU and at the Surrey Institute of Art and
Design. http://www.jonmeyer.com
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Other Thursday Club events this term:

22 FEBRUARY with BILL GAVER

Bill is Professor of Design at Goldsmiths College. He has pursued
research on innovative technologies for over 15 years, his work spanning
auditory interfaces, theories of perception and action, and interaction
design. Currently he focuses on design-led methodologies and innovative
technologies for everyday life.
--

8 MARCH with SUE BROADHURST

DIGITAL PRACTICES

Sue is Subject Leader, Reader in Drama and Technologies at the School of
Art, Brunel University of West London. Sue is also a writer and
practitioner in the creative arts. Her new book /Performance and
Technology: Practices of Virtual Embodiment and Interactivity/ has just
been published by Palgrave. She is co-editor of the /Body, Space and
Technology /online journal and is currently working on a series of
collaborative practice based research projects entitled "Intelligence,
Interaction, Reaction and Performance".
--

22 MARCH with IGLOO

International and award winning artists igloo create intermedia
artworks, led by Ruth Gibson & Bruno Martelli.

‘In the mid-sixties, Fluxus artists began using the term 'intermedia' to
describe work that was ....composed of multiple media. The term
highlights the intersection of artistic genres and has gradually
emphasized performative work and projects that employ new technologies.’
[Marisa Olson - Rhizome.org]

igloo projects are created with teams of highly skilled practitioners
drawn primarily from performance, music, design, architecture, costume,
computer science and technology backgrounds. Their work combines film,
video, motion capture technology, music and performance with digital
technology. The work is developed in a variety of formats and made for
distribution across a range of platforms, including gallery
installation, internet sites, large and small scale performance and Cd Rom.
Visit www.igloo.org.uk/
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THE THURSDAY CLUB is an open forum discussion group for anyone
interested in the theories and practices of cross-disciplinarity,
interactivity, technologies and philosophies of the state-of-the-art in
today’s (and tomorrow’s) cultural landscape(s).

For more information check http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/gds/events.php or
email maria x at drp01mc@gold.ac.uk
To find Goldsmiths check http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/find-us/

--
Maria Chatzichristodoulou [aka maria x] PhD Art and Computational Technologies Goldsmiths Digital Studios www.cybertheater.org